Horizon Express revealed at Skaerbaek

 

  • Horizon Express revealed at Skaerbaek

    Posted by Huw, 29 Sep 2012 15:00. Filed under New sets.

    10233: Horizon Express
    Creator/Expert, 2013
    More details...
    ©2013 LEGO Group

    This set, which will be the first of a new Creator 'Expert' series, has just been revealed at the LEGO fan weekend in Skaerbaek, Denmark.

    10233 Horizon Express, 1,351 pieces.
    Build the ultimate high-speed LEGO passenger train!

    US $129.99, CA $149.99, DE 99.99€, UK £79.99, DK  899.00 DKK. Available in January.

    Fly down the track in the Horizon Express! Collect this highly detailed LEGO interpretation of a modern, high-speed electric passenger train! The detailed body features black train windows, brick-built chevron detailing, extendable pantographs, printed windscreen and brick-built doors. Remove the roof to play inside two detailed passenger cars! Steer from the front engine car with a control panel and brick-built electrical box! Then take to the tracks in luxury with the first-class car’s seats, luggage, newspapers, computer screen and even a bathroom with sliding door!

    The rear car features a bar with hinged counter, tables for the passengers with seats, a coffee machine, cups and bottles. For the ultimate high-speed experience, attach a second Horizon Express model, or motorize it by adding LEGO Power Functions! Hard-to-find elements include orange LEGO bricks (including 6x28 chassis plate) and printed tiles. Includes 6 minifigures: train engineer, train steward, and 4 passengers.

    • Includes 6 minifigures: female train engineer, male train steward, 2 female passengers and 2 male passengers.
    • Features 3 train cars, detailed engine room, printed windscreen, black train windows, brick-built chevron detailing, extendable pantographs, seats, a bathroom with sliding door, bar with hinged counter and tables with seats.
    • Accessories include luggage, newspapers, computer screen, coffee machine, cups and bottles.
    • Discover sideways building techniques!
    • Ride the rails in high-speed LEGO style!
    • Upgrade your model by adding LEGO Power Functions 8878 Rechargeable Battery Box, 8887 Transformer 10V DC, 8884 IR Receiver, 8879 IR Speed Remote Control, 88002 Train Motor and 8870 Lights.
    • Train measures 31" (79cm) long.

    Seems pretty good for $130/£80, doesn't it!

    Update: I've added the additional pictures to the 10233 set details page.


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Posted by Olamisai in Finland, 29 Sep 2012 15:09

WOW!

Make that $260/£160 for the inevitable "must buy two and stick them back to back" :-) for 160cm of train'y goodness.

Seems those crafty guys from Billund are hitting them out of the park in terms of recent 'collector' trains.

Posted by Timoonn in France, 29 Sep 2012 15:14

Its cleary inspired by first versions of the french hight speed train

http://trainsdumonde.chez-alice.fr/images/tgv-1_generation.jpg

Posted by Si_Dorking_Surrey in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 15:16

oh WOW!!!!

My (hopeful) predictions of a new high speed train this year were right then.
AWESOME!!

Love the SNOT technique for the black and white arrows on the side.
Woman train driver is a nice change as well.
Love those minifigs.
Shared bogeys as well. Nice!

New creator expert series, eh? double wow!

Stunned.

Posted by Bricktofen in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 15:26

That is such a nice model!

I can't wait to get my hands on that :D, the price is really good and I hope this Creator Expert continues because Creator has lots of really nice models such as 2011's Lighthouse island and this new Creator line could open up to tons of very detailed and well priced sets. Very excited!

Posted by Savage_Steel in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 15:39

*excited* love my trains - looking forward to this :)

Posted by halfpenguinhalflego in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 15:39

Fantastic! I love it! :D

Posted by Savage_Steel in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 15:42

ALSO - new head (beardy trendy glasses) and is the tan hair new? And the green bottles?

Posted by Firox 5000 in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 15:43

This looks like a loverly train.

Posted by legomaniac in United States, 29 Sep 2012 15:47

Hmmm $130 I dont know, but it is sure a nice train. Lots of detail.

Posted by 501 in United States, 29 Sep 2012 15:56

This looks great but I think I will hold out for a new steam engine.

Posted by bluelion3 in United States, 29 Sep 2012 16:09

Really nice. I'm hoping for a BOGO50% to buy two.
@Timoonn, they even matched the colors in that TGV photo. Wow!

Posted by BJMdotLEGO in Belgium, 29 Sep 2012 16:22

This looks fantastic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fbtbnet/sets/72157631650914158/show/ (slideshow of FBTB's pics of this set on Flickr)

Posted by Markey in Belgium, 29 Sep 2012 16:27

Very nice. So I take it that Creator Expert is the Modelteam II theme fans have been asking for?

Posted by Matthew in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 16:35

Purple and grey torsos look new to me too.

Posted by DaveBey in United States, 29 Sep 2012 16:36

Oh wow! This is awesome! I'd been considering trying to get the parts to build James Mathis' classic TGV but this is just epic. Buy two of these, some more Power Functions, and maybe even some more track! Hello 2013!

Posted by CapnRex101 in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 16:58

Looks very nice to me, this will definitely be going on my wish list!

Posted by Venunder in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 17:01

It makes sense for this to be split into two smaller sets. :)
O no lego haven't done that, it is just my imagination. ;)
I guess they thought £190 for one train might be a bit too much.

Now I know why I bought 2 passenger trains.
I needed the power functions for this train set......

Posted by Alemas in Germany, 29 Sep 2012 17:45

An £80 train with 1,351 pieces?! When has LEGO become so cheap? :P

Posted by meccanotwitch in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 17:47

I am not usually one for buying trains but this looks excellent and a pair would look even better. My wife says I can have them as a late Christmas present, can't wait.

Posted by Andhe in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 18:01

Extendable pantographs! The beardy face is a new miners one, the tan hair is Luke Skywalker, the grey torso Rodney Rathbone from MF and I've seen the purple torso somewhere but can't think where (maybe one of those builder buckets actually). The green bottle is new, but seems to be worryingly held by the conductor in every picture...

I see they have snuck in one of those sneaky 'two sets back to back' (a la medieval joust) again!

Posted by caperberry in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 18:10

And they snuck in a coffee machine. Can't see the flick-fire missiles though?

Posted by herbie75 in United Kingdom, 29 Sep 2012 18:17

wow i want but I cant believe it will stay at £80 as I feel they will do the same as with the haunted house by getting us all excited and wanting it. Then raising the price before it goes on sale. Its a really cool set :)

Posted by brixton in Canada, 29 Sep 2012 18:45

This looks like a really amazing set. I hate the concept of buying two of them just to make 1 complete train but this is such an awesome set that I haven't completely ruled out buying it yet. It is unlikely I'll get it though since the 2013 modular building is the set that I want the most.

Posted by madforLEGO in United States, 29 Sep 2012 19:08

130 for the set huh? Sounds like a future 'price correction' to me..
At 130 this is nice, I also like that it is not a classic locomotive.
Though I laugh at it being 'three train cars' more like the engine and two cars, but I guess that is splitting hairs.

Interesting how it looks like the grill bricks that make up the arrow seems to be painted and not a sticker.. maybe that is just the pics though
UPDATE, never mind.. it is a building technique..

Posted by Isabella and Lego Liker in United States, 29 Sep 2012 19:11

80UK is also less than 1% cheaper than the 130US, so it's exactly correct.

Posted by Vortex in Pakistan, 29 Sep 2012 19:25

@brixton .. What is the modular building set for 2013 ?

Posted by Thomson & Thompson in Canada, 29 Sep 2012 19:39

New Creator "Expert" series? This build seems pretty easy to me, as 1,351 piece builds go. Anyways, I'll be getting this. $150 seems quite a good price, as the Maersk Train had about 100 less pieces and was five dollars more. Actually, you'll have to make that $300, Because of the inevitable "put two together" factor. This is obviously the original TGV train. Looking forward to it!

Posted by Isabella and Lego Liker in United States, 29 Sep 2012 19:45

Yep, Candians only have a 15% markup on this.

Posted by osuharding1 in United States, 29 Sep 2012 21:30

I hope this set is released early in 2013. Really looking forward to more Creator 'Expert' reveals!

Posted by Isabella and Lego Liker in United States, 29 Sep 2012 21:32

It should be released January 2013, maybe TRU will have it December 2012, who knows.

Posted by osuharding1 in United States, 29 Sep 2012 21:33

Drat! Great to set it available in January

Posted by T-Lars in United States, 29 Sep 2012 23:53

Creator 'Expert' series, huh? More, please.

Posted by fyrmedhatt in United States, 30 Sep 2012 00:31

I guess Lego finally branded their 10000 series sets with the blue studded borders as the Creator Expert series, now there should be no more discussion of where the modular buildings and large architecture models fit in (one can wish...).

Great train too, although I would need two to make it complete.

Posted by jon11380 in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 01:31

Will there be a reveal at GWLS and Brick Con next weekend, if so what? Typically next weekend a set is revealed. The Imperial Flag ship, Joust set and Daigon Ally have all been reveal at these shows.

Posted by Town in United States, 30 Sep 2012 02:37

This is nice... Creator Expert series could be good- hopefully a little less odd than some of the Creator set elements have been and more Town and City-based pieces (like trees and shrubbery for example).

Posted by Zrath in United States, 30 Sep 2012 02:44

Oh, I like it! Scratch that, I LOVE it!!
I am totally buying two and linking them together, after modding the middle bogie.
Looks like I finally realize my dream of owning a TGV model train, and in Lego to boot!
C'est génial et formidable! :D

Posted by Zordboy in Australia, 30 Sep 2012 02:56

I'm in love.

I love the orange, and the fact that yeah, it's a TGV engine. I like the sleekness of it (it's a shame about the small windows, and the fact that the windows are at the wrong height for a sitting minifig).

But those doors! Seriously Lego, you did the "hinge the doors off black handle pieces in the carriage connectors" trick back with Emerald Night. And it really didn't work then, either. Unless they're glued in place, the handle-bricks shift and move which makes it darn hard to shut the doors.

Aside from that - a great train. Want.

Posted by The Baron in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 04:29

Slow down everyone. Lets not big it up or they'll change the price.

Although £208 for full train plus Power Functions (two motors because it will be heavy) is expensive.

Why 6 minifigures? Way too many.

Posted by DarthZared in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 04:31

Lucky I just sold my 7938 because now this will sell like hot cakes! Not my thing but I can see this Expert theme going a long way, but it depends what the other sets will be. Modulars? More trains? I like it how if you buy 2 trains you can combine them. Orange bricks are great. And would you look at the thing? It's neater than neat!

Posted by ChicoCheco in Norway, 30 Sep 2012 05:15

Looks beautiful to me, but again it is single sided and you have to get two to get the whole train. I hat this concept since 4511 train set. From this design point of view I like 7897 or 7938 more. But why did they produce TGV 1st generation (based on orange colours)? http://leady247.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/1-tgv-1_generation.jpg

Posted by Gregorovich in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 05:18

I'm not a huge train fan, but I can't help but like this. It looks very nice, and I love when they include interiors. The minifigures aren't great (two of the women have the same face, plus I have all the torsos), but it does include an interesting trans green bottle! I also like how there's a toilet included, although I can't really see how it looks yet.

Plus, at £80, this is quite a steal! I was expecting at least £100 when I saw it.

You say a new Creator Expert series? I wonder... will these be Exclusives? What else will be in this range? I'm excited!

Posted by madaboutlego in Ireland, 30 Sep 2012 06:09

I know what to save my christmas money for!
Hope it's on sale before though.

Posted by Si_Dorking_Surrey in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 06:23

@The Baron
Good point ... everyone please stop talking about how Lego are giving us good value or they'll read this and decide to fleece us like they did on the HH.

Posted by fredolego in France, 30 Sep 2012 09:31

Mesdames et Messieurs bonjour et bienvenue à bord du TGV n° 10233 au départ de Billund et à destination de chez moi! La SNCF vous remercie et vous souhaite un agréable voyage... :)

Posted by Firedogg in Australia, 30 Sep 2012 09:59

^ LOL

Love it. Been waiting for a new train.

I'm guessing about $200 for Australia. (Based on Maersk no. of pieces and price, and Thomson & Thompson's comments)

Still want a new steam train too though. A Garratt would be cool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt

Posted by jonbuddy in United States, 30 Sep 2012 10:51

That's a fine train we got there.

EDIT: Had to look up what a pantograph is, heh. :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph

Posted by alanyap in Malaysia, 30 Sep 2012 10:55

It baffles me why this set is put under "Creator" category. I was expecting "more photos" to show another 2 alternate builds (like all Creators in the recent years) but end up dissapointed. The official photosets are befitting those taken for "Advanced Models" to showcase its intricate details and itemised offerings (like a cup ,for examples) .LOL.

Posted by Duq in Ireland, 30 Sep 2012 11:49

Creator 'Expert' is replacing 'Exclusive' if I remember Jamies words correctly.

Posted by Be-Burger in Israel, 30 Sep 2012 11:52

Wait... new monorail?

Posted by milkbottlec in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 12:56

Great creator series...will be my next one after lighthouse :p
Tweed to give it some mod to make the wheels in right formation :p

Posted by Spindarren in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 13:18

Great set this, looks as though it has a new element as well a inverted tile!, plus it's not all stickers, has some printed elements too.Can't wait for this, very nice indeed!

Posted by Mickitat in Germany, 30 Sep 2012 13:56

I need four. Minimum. "Need", no, really, "need".

Posted by Zackula in United States, 30 Sep 2012 14:18

I think this is the first Creator set to include guns.

Posted by CapnRex101 in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 15:11

@caperberry - The flick fire missiles must be hidden inside somewhere and extend out...

@John11380 - Perhaps a Modular Building for next year, although I too was surprised when this came up as things are almost always revealed at those two conventions.

Posted by devilhead in United States, 30 Sep 2012 15:13

@Be-Burger It's a train, not a monorail.

@Zackula Guns? What are you talking about?

Posted by Kez in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 15:52

@Matthew the grey torso is of the monster fighters peg leg hero

Posted by SandmanDK in Denmark, 30 Sep 2012 16:03

@Duq - thats how I remember it too - allthough I think he called it the 'Direct Exclusive'.
@Spindarren - You are right! Jamie did talk about a new element - the inverted tile. And the door is a printed element.
My 7 year old son was ready to buy a set right at the presentation - and I don't think it has any thing to with the fact, that his favorit colour is orange ;-)

Posted by milkbottlec in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 16:38

@ Duq @Sandman when did he say so...? Thanks!

Posted by SandmanDK in Denmark, 30 Sep 2012 16:56

@milkbottlec - as I recall it, it was in the designer video that he talked about the new piece.
@huw - the event took place in Skærbæk (Skaerbaek) not Skaerberk ;-)

Posted by Chocolate in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 17:02

@SandmanDK "My 7 year old son was ready to buy a set right at the presentation" I feel so sorry for him, it is going to be hard enough for us grown-ups to wait 3 months! At least he's got time to save up his pocketmoney/allowance . . .

Posted by SandmanDK in Denmark, 30 Sep 2012 17:07

@Chocolate - I'm affraid his pocketmoney/birthdaygiftmoney and all other kinds of money are reserved for a big stack of other sets - like the CITY mine, Helm's Deep and things like that. And he hasn't quite understood, that the money only can be spent once (he's got that from his mother ;-) )

Posted by gifinim in United Kingdom, 30 Sep 2012 17:19

Very nice looking set. I'm glad they've not padded it out with another station.

I wonder what odds I'll get at the bookies on the price NOT going up...

Posted by AllanSmith in New Zealand, 30 Sep 2012 19:07

I am definitely getting two.
Found this youtube clip of the presentation which included the designer video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt1iUrScjJY

Posted by OuterRimTradingCo. in Australia, 30 Sep 2012 20:59

It's great to see another great train release from TLG. I just hope they take notice of the buzz created from just a single train, and decide to bring back trains as a regular release category... I'll take 2 please!

Posted by Nightshroud99 in Canada, 30 Sep 2012 21:45

This looks really cool!

Posted by johnnie_tee in Singapore, 30 Sep 2012 22:31

this one looks great! main gripe is the BIG stickers on the sides cos u cant do without them. i wonder why the designer didn't bother to use bricks like in the smaller arrows further down. the trouble with stickers here is that their orange colour might not match with the bricks.

Also, there are not a lot of orange bricks here (even though it seems like it on the picture). the 3 decks are long gigantic orange plates and lots of 6-by-1s near the roofs. there are a lot of chunky bricks here as well. i suppose that's expected of a train set.

yeah, i'm more looking forward to a steam engine than this. cos in asia, this train doesn't look like anything at all. would love to have japanese bullet train though. lol^^

Posted by Zackula in United States, 30 Sep 2012 22:57

@devilhead;
Look at the roofs.

Posted by BrianOg in France, 30 Sep 2012 23:45

@johnnie_tee

you're dead right, those stickers MAKE the whole colour scheme of the train. Once they start falling apart, the train really loses about 80% to 90% of its appeal. Its the same on the Maersk train. I'd happily spend an extra €5 just to have those two bricks printed - like it was done on the old black and red "TGV" from 1985.

Plus I hope there are enough spare elements to extend the lower faring when making the whole "one bogey for two cars" when joining up the two sets I will inevitably buy.

Another question is: do I sell off one of my Emerald Nights to get this? I've got one built, and two to spare - but then I could only make a 2 carriage EN!! Decisions...

Posted by Balthazar Brannigan in United States, 01 Oct 2012 00:18

I'm so excited for this set... I've loved TGV trains since I was a young child, and part of me has always wanted one rendered in Lego. I'm especially excited to stick two back to back to make a realistically long train; the city trains always tend to have two engines and one car, which prevents cost-effective expansion.

I'm somewhat surprised no one has said this yet, but the pieces with the slanted stripe image on the engine ARE printed. Jamie specifically says that in the promotional video, which someone posted a link to above. I'm really glad Lego made that decision, especially with such an amazing model.

Posted by BrianOg in France, 01 Oct 2012 00:19

^Really?

Well this is great news indeed then! I was still gonna buy a couple, now I'll do so with no qualms whatsoever

Posted by CamberbrickGreen in United Kingdom, 01 Oct 2012 03:26

Creator remains the best theme. It can provide for any other theme (ok mostly town), has massive potential and guarantees the original Lego experience with honest building pieces and techniques. A giant train was still a huge surprise though.

Posted by DwarfSleepy in Netherlands, 01 Oct 2012 04:14

@johnnie_tee and @BrinaOg

the diagonal tiles ARE printed, only the numbers are stickers

Posted by BrianOg in France, 01 Oct 2012 04:49

^yes, as I aknowledged in my second message. However, what about the grille on the nose piece - also looks like a sticker? Jamie didn't mention it in the list of new elements - plus you can see it on the sticker sheet (I'm referring to the youtube video of course). Still thats far from being a dealbreaker.

I'm curious tho' - how many of you like having huge long trains of 4 to 6 feet in length? Doesn't it require a massive set up for it not to dwarf your oval of rails?

Posted by CCC in United Kingdom, 01 Oct 2012 05:18

Fly down the track in the Horizon Express! ...
Then take to the tracks in luxury ...
Ride the rails in high-speed LEGO style ...

Does it include track?

Posted by Plastic_Nurak_80 in Italy, 01 Oct 2012 06:59

I hoped since a long time of an Expert Creator Subtheme, so now I'm happy to see my hopes became reality :) .

Posted by ninjagoyo in United States, 01 Oct 2012 07:35

Wow, that is hideous. From the pictures people linked, obviously it is true to life, but why make a model of a really ugly train, even if it was historic? The original shinkansen was both historic and beautiful, although the shape might be even more challenging. In part it's that I hate LEGO's shade of orange anyway. It's the only LEGO color that I just can't stand, except as a small accent. It's so garish and grating... combined with black and white it looks like a Halloween party favor. Why not bright light orange, which is a lovely color with not enough pieces available? Or dark orange, another great LEGO color? The minifigures are meh too. Anyway, I do love the pantograph.

Posted by DaddyDeuce in United States, 01 Oct 2012 11:52

Those orange chassis plates are going to make it tough to build MOC cars without relying on this set as the source, smart move by LEGO.

Posted by The Lego Train Station in United Kingdom, 01 Oct 2012 12:17

Yes, finally, a new train. More to drool over then cry when it goes out of production...



XD

Posted by brixton in Canada, 01 Oct 2012 16:12

The one thing I love about this train is the length of it when you put two of them together. It looks like a real train. The thing I hate about it is that you have to buy two sets to make a complete train.

Posted by AllanSmith in New Zealand, 01 Oct 2012 16:45

@BrianOg. I love long trains. This set x 2 will look good on my long straights at speed. http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ToyKiwi/Hobby-Expo-2012/2012taupo39.jpg

@brixton. Buying only 2 is Ok. I bought 6 Emerald Nights to get extra carriages. Also 6 Maersk trains to get the extra wagons, plus more Maersk containers from Ebay.

Posted by Dee in United Kingdom, 01 Oct 2012 18:07

This model is begging for a custom version that's the correct length for the other dimensions :)

Posted by typo in United States, 01 Oct 2012 18:13

GRogall of Eurobricks has posted the official designer video:
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=74649&view=findpost&p=1404371

Direct Link:
https://fbcdn-video-a.akamaihd.net/cfs-ak-snc6/v/238226/656/661790430101_24519.mp4?oh=6062b07a1b782dd29fa2140b3304e6ae&oe=506A2167&__gda__=1349132884_c94366465cdfae52e28d977eb183a30f

Posted by Mickitat in Germany, 02 Oct 2012 05:30

"Available in January." WTF? This is a PERFECT christmas gift! How can you not make this available for christmas?

Posted by Sammael in Yugoslavia, 02 Oct 2012 10:11

I was at the presentation.

It will be available in January, and I very much doubt they'll be out sooner because at this point, there are no pre-production samples - the one present at the event was a prototype.

There are no stickers, other than numbering. Everything else is printed.

Creator Expert is the new name for Exclusives and should also incorporate modular buildings and such (i.e. they are re-branding the entire 10000 subline).

There is a new element in the set, 2x2 inverted tile (very nice).

PF elements are not included in order to keep the price reasonable and to make purchasing multiples easier (without getting unwanted duplicate PF elements such as remote controls).

It was specifically planned for January to boost January (i.e. post-Christmas) sales.

Orange color was chosen in order to avoid mix-ups with regular City trains which are red, yellow, and green.

Posted by AllanSmith in New Zealand, 02 Oct 2012 14:11

@Sammael, The designer video at 5:44 shows the sticker sheet which also has a control panel sticker and a nose sticker.

Posted by USAgent in United States, 05 Oct 2012 21:15

Anyone going to attempt a 9v conversion?

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