Red Five Standing By - UCS X-Wing Revealed at LEGOWorld Copenhagen

Posted by Ebak in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 16:03

My only concern is the way the wings seem to sag because of the sheer weight of the pieces. I understand that is an unavoidable issue. However it is a concern for me.

Posted by Jverweij in Netherlands, 15 Feb 2013 16:07

have to admit, this one looks pretty damn good! I'll not be getting it, because it's not up to minifigscale.

The fact that this is the first ever UCS reissue makes me hopeful for another go at the millennium falcon though :)

Posted by cinemajay in United States, 15 Feb 2013 16:09

The nose looks really good on this one. Oh to have a squadron of them hanging from the rafters!

Posted by atkinsar in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 16:11

I'm over the moon to be honest, I don't have the original UCS X-Wing, this looks great to me and doesn't cost the earth.

Posted by CapnRex101 in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 16:17

This looks absolutely brilliant, a beautiful model! I imagine I will be waiting until Christmas to get my hands on it, if I can wait that long that is.

Posted by Renny in United States, 15 Feb 2013 16:19

I have the original 7191 model and the wings have never sagged at all. If they use the same method of attaching the wings to the hull then it shouldn't be a problem this go around either.

Posted by daben in Spain, 15 Feb 2013 16:20

I think the same as Jverweij. I am more of UCS models minifigscale. There are so many possibilities. AT-AT for example

Posted by lippidp in United States, 15 Feb 2013 16:22

Geez, I never thought I'd see a UCS remake. VERY disappointed as there are other ships they could've made that haven't already been done. On the positive side at least I will save $200.

Posted by greg.titcomb in United States, 15 Feb 2013 16:22

sorry wallet (yet again...)

Posted by rocao in United States, 15 Feb 2013 16:33

The wings themselves on 7191 don't sag, but their weight strains the technic pin attachment points to the body such that the four wings don't extend perfectly uniform. They're prone to coming a little loose and it doesn't take much to jar it completely loose. The mechanism to open and close them is difficult.

The photos show that the new model is attached with beams so it looks like these problems have been addressed.

Posted by obiron17 in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 16:34

Yet another 'remake' for 2013. What happened to Orthanc Tower reveal *disappointed*

Posted by perfectlydark in Australia, 15 Feb 2013 16:42

This may sound dumb but I actually prefer the standard Xwing from last year.

Posted by Ebak in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 16:43

With all due respect Obiron, remakes/rereleases are important because people do miss out on some Lego Models. For example I missed out on the 2008 Gunship...so I am really excited to get one this year. Besides a lot of the vehicles from the films have been done. Not all, but most.

Posted by Captapjt in Belgium, 15 Feb 2013 16:43

I guess I'll be using my VIP points to get this for half price, gonna look great on a shelf above my SSD with the mini model from the planets next to it :-)

Posted by Aanchir in United States, 15 Feb 2013 16:46

This model looks gorgeous. I don't care if it's not new-- it always amazes me when TLG revisits a classic concept and blows their original attempt out of the water. Sure, TLG could keep introducing more and more obscure ships, or they could bring their oldest design (and possibly the most iconic ship in the Star Wars universe) up to date so it no longer looks like a shabby relic compared to its more recent, less important brethren.

The nose on this attempt is a little bit too blunt, but other than that the proportions seem all right. The construction of the engines is stellar, with 98585 appearing in a non-transparent color for the first time and some lovely creativity in the front intakes and the rear exhaust nozzles (I know they're probably not actual exhaust nozzles, but I don't know a more appropriate term for that part of an engine/rocket in a sci-fi context).

The main part that disappoints me are the little shields around the tips of the blaster cannons, but I have to concede that there really hasn't been a better-shaped piece to fulfill that task as far as I'm aware, and it's too small a detail for something more complex to really be effective.

Posted by Demarco Murray in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 16:55

Wow, I feel sorry for the people who held on to their original UCS X-Wing. The value of that set is about to fall through the floor.

Posted by emmtwosix in United States, 15 Feb 2013 16:57

Ever since the first time I saw Star Wars as a kid, all I've ever really wanted was to swoosh around an X-wing bigger than my head. Thank you Lego.

@atkinsar - Now that I'm older and money is a thing, I'm also glad it doesn't cost the earth. :)

Posted by CapnRex101 in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 17:03

@Demarco Murray - Not necessarily, buyers for that original UCS X-Wing are likely to be new collectors of the UCS line rather than people who want a large scale model of the X-Wing, therefore, the price will probably not fall, it usually does not for other remakes.

Posted by lovaquero in United States, 15 Feb 2013 17:21

Mixed thoughts and emotions here. The remake doesn't bother me financially as I don't hold onto my 7191 original for $$$ purposes. Besides, I doubnt this will hurt the value of the original as has been (mostly) proven with the multiple versions of the AT-AT, AT-TE, Slave I, etc. I'm always for seeing new and improved models.

I am bugged that LEGO is now remaking the UCS when there is still so much more that they could explore with UCS before having to revisit previous models.

But I guess LEGO has to go somewhere with the large extension they have on the SW license...

Posted by lovaquero in United States, 15 Feb 2013 17:24

BTW, this will make 4 'official' SW UCS models out at the same time. 5 for those who count 10188 Death Star as a UCS model.

Although according to the photosteam this is not branded as UCS, despite the size, piece count and display/placard.

Appears that we have new 'round' elements in the engine-exhaust tubes. Greebling seems to be diminished.

Not sure what to think of this ship. Similar to complaints leveled against the B-Wing, something just doesn't seem right with this rendition.

I guess I am just too in love with my 7191. It IS the set that brought me out of my dark ages, after all ;-)

Posted by Cmdr_Roy in Australia, 15 Feb 2013 17:50

Cool, now it can go on the shelf with all my other UCS models :)

Posted by Kulturkampf in United States, 15 Feb 2013 18:51

Are you kidding me, LEGO? I don't like this set at all. I was so excited for a remake because I hate the old one. And now this looks just like the old one. It's white, the engines are too small, and the body is not hexagonal yet again. And again with the minifig scale R2-D2 on a UCS X-Wing? That should not be happening. The nose looks terrible as well. I guess I'll keep my own UCS X-Wing around longer.

Posted by Firox 5000 in United Kingdom, 15 Feb 2013 19:15

As I currently own the 1999 and 2011 X wing models, I have no intentions on buying this version of the set and will save money for the upcoming gunship remake [I also missed out on].

Posted by Ypres in Canada, 15 Feb 2013 19:31

I don't own the original collectors edition X-wing... but lord knows I tried on multiple occasions. Now I can happily look the other way at re-seller prices for the old model and focus whole-heartedly on getting the modern one. Besides, I wasn't that attached to the old model anyway.

Posted by todd1981 in New Zealand, 15 Feb 2013 19:32

Not sure what to think. Not really loving the remake mostly because it still seems to resemble the old one a lot

Posted by fox171171 in United States, 15 Feb 2013 19:51

Interesting, but I don't know if it is significantly better than my 7191. I never had wing sag, but they did tend to come off the pegs a little, causing them to become misaligned. I do see some issues here with the laser cannon barrels not being parallel, but the pieces don't look tightly assembled either, and that might solve that issue. The R2-D2 is fine with it. Minifig astromechs aren't really to scale with minifig humans, so it really can't match both. Nose doesn't look quite right to me.

(In Canada, not USA.)

Posted by Zrath in United States, 15 Feb 2013 19:58

I missed the original X-Wing and don't feel the need to get one all that much since I prefer capital ships.
However, this new one looks really nice and the video shows it's swooshable. :)
I think the UCS B=Wing, which is mostly plates, is a rip-off at $200 and should be priced at $150.
I have no such thoughts on this new UCS X-Wing, $200 seems reasonable for something this solid and with a good mix of blocks and plates.

Posted by ecmo47 in United States, 15 Feb 2013 20:04

Are those official Lego photos? Seems odd that they would release photo's with wings that visually sag when in the closed position and guns that do not line up (top view). I do not see this model as a significant improvement over the original but perhaps it looks better "in the flesh". At least my wallet is happy that it doesn't have cough up another $200.00 for "the habit" !

Posted by ben30024 in United States, 15 Feb 2013 20:50

grr. i just reported this today, and now it gets reported on in an official announcement. today has not been going well.

Posted by multiplex in Canada, 15 Feb 2013 22:31

Wow now all I need is a remake of the Falcon and my life is complete. Thank you LEGO!

Posted by Systematik in Czech Republic, 16 Feb 2013 00:08

Should be added to the video tab of http://www.brickset.com/detail/?set=10240-1

Posted by Buckbrick in Singapore, 16 Feb 2013 00:23

Firstly, I do not own the 7191 and god knows how I have tried to obtain one but the price is through the roof for UCS sets of that era. And I understand why: looking at the modern UCS sets, they do not give me that feeling of awe that the older sets like the Snowspeeder, Tantive, TIE Interceptor and of course the granddaddy of them all, ISD. So in comes the only re-issue of a UCS ever, it looks too 'clinical' than classic, probably thanks to the new builds and new elements, like the new nose design. I'll definitively get the new one, since there's no way I'm going to pay for the old one. IMO both are in their own league as far as collecting is concerned: 10240 is not equal to 7191. 10240 is a redesign.

And about the a UCS set not being minifig scale... I mean honestly, the X-Wing is an interceptor and hence a small craft. Minifig scale would mean a regular play set. The whole idea of a UCS set is size and detail. So not all SW vehicles translate well in minifig scale. It would either be too small or too large and cost prohibitive.

Posted by The Green Brick Giant in United States, 16 Feb 2013 00:34

I'm not a Star Wars fan, but is this really worth the price? The Minifigure ones are really nice too, and will save you $150.

Posted by cadwindu1996 in United Kingdom, 16 Feb 2013 02:38

Minifig one was cheaper and had a perfect minifig scale. Shame no orthanc yet hope they reveal that soon officially.Another x wing just seems like a waste of time as weve had god knows how many!!! I never got an xwing perhpas i'll pick up the 2012 one on sale hmmm.

Posted by bbricks in Indonesia, 16 Feb 2013 02:51

hm... I just wonder how much the price drop for the original UCS X-wing

and can't wait for the remake of UCS Millenium Falcon :p

Posted by atkinsar in United Kingdom, 16 Feb 2013 02:57

@ben30024, this press release was under embargo until 9pm GMT/4pm EST, any site that published the details earlier than that broke the embargo. We honoured the embargo and published at the earliest allowed time.

@Systematik, I added the link to the designer video on YouTube yesterday but for some reason it isn't working. I'm sure Huw will fix it soon.

Posted by BRICKFAN101 in United Kingdom, 16 Feb 2013 06:45

It dosnt make sense to me how theres R2D2 in it but its not minifig scaled

Posted by zipsforbananas in United Kingdom, 16 Feb 2013 07:15

Hmm, can't decide if it's brilliant or poor! Loads of the details look brilliant, and from some angles it looks superb, but it does look awkward too. I love the wing mechanism, the guns, engine, cockpit and other bits; but the nose does seem clumsy and somehow the side shots seem wrong, like a fan's sketch of the shape rather than the real, clean shape.
That's the aspect that's always turned me off UCS, I think the compact minifig scale Tantive IV, X-Wing, various TIE-Fighters and Falcon all look better than the UCS versions; I adore the UCS Lambda Shuttle and wouldn't say no to the Super Star Destroyer, but apart from that UCS doesn't grab me.

Saying that, maybe seeing it in the flesh will turn me round, I thought the B-Wing looked better than the photos could convey, and there is a lot of it I do like.

Posted by rherberg in Netherlands, 16 Feb 2013 07:16

Why are most people complaining? If you don't want it, don't buy it.

I have the 7191 and will propably buy this one too.

It's more detailed than the 7191 ( i.e. targetsystem in cockpit). The system for the wings is better than the old one, so it has everytihng a remake should have, more detail, better design... ( and of course it will look much like the 7191 set, it's a x-wing, duh).

Posted by damien in Netherlands, 16 Feb 2013 08:50

Totally agree with rherberg! It's an awesome piece of work and will look good next to my 7191!

But I do hope that not every UCS gets a refresh.

Posted by Red Five Standing By in United Kingdom, 16 Feb 2013 09:12

This post (and model) called to me for some reason. Can't think why...

Posted by Coolcomedian in Norway, 16 Feb 2013 09:59

@BRICKFAN101 well, the minifig scale R2D2 might be a bit too large for minifig scale anyway.

Posted by jamie75 in United States, 16 Feb 2013 11:02

While, I like the look of this, I really wish they would have finished the Rebel ships in UCS "scale" first. We have a an X-Wing, Snowspeeder, Y-Wing, and B-Wing. They should have release an A-Wing now, then next year release this.

Second, why are they using the minifig R2-D2 when they have released a UCS set with the printed R2 head on UCS Obi-Wan's Jedi Starfighter. They could have used the same print pattern, just change the colors to blue and print it on a silver head?

Regardless, I'll buy it and make some changes.

Posted by wiredforsound in United States, 16 Feb 2013 12:56

You can see my pictures of the actual model from LEGOWorld 2013 here :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiredforsound23/tags/10240/

Posted by julian977 in United Kingdom, 16 Feb 2013 13:27

Great looking model. However I can't help wondering whether if I was a designer showing off my work on youtube, whether I would have made sure the sticker (yes a 1x2 size sticker on £170 set!) on the firing/missile computer was actually stuck on straight. :-/

Posted by blounty23 in United Kingdom, 16 Feb 2013 16:08

I might not be the first to spot this, but on the box of the set it says 1559 pieces and in the article it says 1558?

Posted by Sato in Netherlands, 16 Feb 2013 19:55

And why isn't there a redesigned TIE Interceptor to accompany this redesigned X-Wing?
7181 and 7191 were released at the same time weren't they?

I really don't like the look of the inside of the wings (The beams that link the wings to the folding mechanism in the body.)

Posted by payney in Australia, 17 Feb 2013 05:56

It looks great and all, but they have already done this. There are so many vehicles in the SW galaxy that deserve a UCS model. They haven't even done a TIE Fighter yet! I personally can't wait for a 1:1 figure scale AT-AT, which would be soooo awesome... give it to me now!!!

Posted by Mayher in Poland, 19 Feb 2013 11:56

I cannot imagine how they could relase it with such terrible blunt nose. The most amazing part is the dark-gray bricks in the middle that makes overall look just silly - like an open beak of a scared four winged goose. The engines looks good in detail but seems too small (in diameter) compared to the rest of the model, torpedo tube is located too far to the back - and god only knows where it's shape was taken from. Adding slightly better but still odd laser's flashback suppressors (how hard it is to make an arch part with a hole in the middle - it could be usefull in many other sets), lack of octagonal shape between nose and cockpit and general "flimsy" feeling makes me simply dissapointed. My wallet will be fat and happy this year from what i see...

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